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    “It was like the phases of feminism. It changed from the white middle-class women, women who had enough entitlement to take up space and get it going and didn’t necessarily have the multiple layers of challenges. Then, as it became evident that black women are disproportionately represented, it changed. So old, hardened survivors who had been around forever had to make space for others. Newcomers from the Caribbean, from Africa…  A lot of the staff were queer so that made it feel safer for those women to come.  Then we hired staff who had been homeless and street involved so more of those women started to come. Then Voices looked at its trans policy and then more trans women came.”

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